But not ask anyone to vote against Obama if (unfortunately for all of us) he becomes the Dem. nominee.

Despite Sweetiegate.

Look at it this way. McCain called his life partner a "xxxx"

Obama's folk keep saying, "its McCain or Obama"
But thats not true at this point. You can work for HRC and make it clear that the Democrats have the intelligence to want more than what Obama has to offer, mediocrity. If he is the nominee, then, you dont need to campaign for him, campaign for local Dem candidates in order to ensure that a national voice for Dem issues in the next four years is heard.

In other words, how people vote is their business.
This election should be about issues. Issues like universal healthcare and economic growth for ALL of us. About improving and continued access to public education so America has a future.

Some may sit out the election, that is their business. Its certainly understandable, if not smart. Its a visceral, personal thing.

But don't campaign FOR the other side.

They are so profoundly out of touch that it would be a real tragedy for all of us on an even deeper level if McCain wins.

"waited his turn"

While we're on the subject, where's my place in the line for the presidency?  If someone else cuts in line, can I yell at them?  

"sexist attacks"

Care to provide examples?  Hey, I can do this too, its fun.  Hillary made "racist attacks" on Obama.  (No, I dont actually believe that, but my point is that throwing out accusations is easy).

The idea of 'waiting his turn' is antithetical to that and down right offensive to many.  If he can make his case and enough voters support it, he should be president.  Period.

Clinton ran a tough campaign.  She would make a great president, but she was betrayed by the incompetence of Mark Penn, not by any misbehavior by the Obama campaign or his supporters.

Peace

I'm rather glad that Obama did not wait his turn, because I (and millions of others) did not wish for it to be her turn.

I had a friend years ago that was raped.  I had to drive her to the clinic and hold her hand because she could not go to her own family (think about why for a moment).  It was the hardest thing I've ever had to do to be strong for her when all I wanted to do was rage and scream and be physically ill.  I am crying again just thinking about it.

The idea that she would be deprived the medical care she needed in that situation make me angry and sick all over again.  The idea that older women would willingly subject a younger generation to that shocks me beyond ration thought.

This is the bad element of the baby boomers. The groups that learned how to protest but never learned how to do it effectively.

Here is what a poster on this very site said:

I don't give a crap about abortion.  I've raised two adopted kids and thank their natural mothers every day.  Whoa!  Does that mean I'm not a Democrat because I don't toe the line?

by NewHampster on Sat May 17, 2008 at 10:19:53 PM EST [ Parent | Reply to This ]

What has Obama done that is sexist?

"Annie Oakley" for one

Oh yeah their must be hundreds of thousands of them. I'm sure they'll at least number as many as showed up to protest at NBC studios. You remember the protest that was promoted on the blogs? And boy was that an impressive showing, nearly closed down Manhatten.  Snark!

... is really because of what I wrote about this diary.  (sorry for the shameless self promotion)

cannot atand for an instant any poster asking good questions about Obama's actions, policies, background, inconsistency with message, history of getting rid of opponents in Chicago, disregard of the rules of the process, aggressive presumptivness in trying to twist the reality of the election and the need to run in order to get votes, the count the votes given in an audited, certified manner, to prove his worth as a candidate rather than try to intimidate and manipulate..you know what I mean.

Don't you find that people who don't want to look carefully at something are usually afraid of what they will see?  And people who don't have an appreciation of fairness, justice and due process usually don't have a good sense of personal accountability and boundaries themselves, leaving them less socially fit, more quick to blame/attack others and unwilling to examine or let other voices be heard.

They don't act like they have any faith that their position or candidate will able to stand on its' own merits under any scrutiny or in the face of any opposition.  If Senator Obama needs that kind of support to win the nomination, wonder what kind of President ...?

Sexism is in many forms, but many are insulted by the use of words by Obama such as sweetie and cutie when he is addressing his colleagues and women who are professionals. He has said many questionable and simalar things in that regard. I posted endlessly about why it is felt that those are sexist terms on Hariden's thread to no avail.  They symbolize something deeper and words are meant to keep sexism in place and reinforce it.  I don't have the energy or desire to go any deeper into it again.  Sorry.

instead of playing by the rules is an aggressive act. Historically "male" aggression at women and at the people who stand up for them is expressed by using greater physical strength and size, control of money and property and more political freedom and support in laws and intstitutions, and more traditional access to power to dominate, control,reduce, dimish, contain, prevent, subdue, discount women. With the help of other men they have taken what women had and used it for themselves.

 The law treated women as property of men and all aspects of life were controlled by men.  Women were sold into marriages by force, their inheritances given to the husbands. Their physical movements in wht world were controlled completely by men. Gradually they got the right to own property, make purchases, and, in my adult lifetime, have credit in their own name. Gradually they got the chance to become educated and work, but just as teachers and nurses and clerks, at first, never in a progession or leadership  position.

Millions of Democrats remember when the effort in the 1970's began to try to make  equal rights and equal pay for women codified into law and it didn't happen. Then women were making  59 cents for every dollar a male made in the same job. Now it is up to 77 cents. Women are over half of the population but do not have half of the positions of control in the institutions, corporations or government. The reason is sexism...a bias against a person  because of their gender.

The best way to know it when you see it is to ask yourself: would that be happening if she were male?

Would I react the same if the issue were race?

Does he get away with it and she doesn't?

Do the male dominated press fault her and praise him for the same things?  Do they decry it when she does it and support it when he does it? Can he get away with saying repeatedly thAT she is dishonest, of low character, will do or say anything to win, will not tell you the truth.

And yet she can say that JFK hoped to get a civil rights bill but it took a president committed and able to do the work to make it law.  And what happened to her. His campaign circulated a memo and made phone calls and got on radio shows and confronted liberal leaders  with cries of RACISM about this statement.  The press went along with the male candidate and never said a word about the things Obama was saying  in his daily character attacks against the woman candidate.

It became conventional wisdom and we see it repeated by Obama supporter every day in blogs and on tv that Hillary will do anything to win and is dishonest and won't ever tell you the truth and not saying if she were VP she would murder Obama (David Gergen and Alax Castellanes on the CNN broadcasts, the latter at 3:50pm PDT Last Tuesday ) It is sexism if males or groups of males gang up up to  do something they would not get away with doing to a male and then use their male dominated power to support it or cover it up.

Young men and some young women are not at all sensitive to these issues yet.  Tens of millions of Democrats, men and women are, because we know what came before and how to measure how far we have yet to go before equality.

I mojoed the comment for you.

I hope you get it back.  On the bright side you can legitimately imitate Austin Powers and say "I've lost my mojo" with a bad British accent until you do.